Then uh e would instruct me to physically do his binding Again his will be done! Then his lesson come to conclusion and I would say Wow! Or That was way to cool! Then that become the Bang you just got hit right between TT he eyes with a snowball. Later it is call a revelation! For the child is born from spirit and into flesh..
And yet there is only spirit.. For the gift of flesh.. Depends upon love.. Yet sadly.. Yet the child may be born again.. Its christmas today.. Upon this day some celibrate.. To give the proof. Of the truth of our heavenly father.. And as father is a spirit force.. Which reflects our divine being. And then so to. And of that which you can ask a baby.. Surley from such a miracle. Does this child.. And understand.. Whom nurture And care with love.. As a gift.. On this day a child was born.. There for. For as much as we believe. By any faith So too is it that indeed. Still we must realize the holy spirit is gods spirit..
And it resides in you.. There is nothing to fear.. From the beginning.. But too. Surely As the measure of a angel is the measure of a man.. With all of fathers attributes.. And then. The cock crows and the tree bows and the dog comes.. So who then is that angel.. Though i mean not to take..http://www.stringrecordings.com/img/children/god-sent-favor.php
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That of naravana or heaven.. As you are at and indeed in levels of such a journey.. Yet there be fires.. After all.. He gives us. This Grace.. And where he resides.. Even though…yet he rises him. And i bow at both his grace And wisdom.. And cry tears for Mary And bleed for Christ.. Just as my father does. As man kind.. And as sons of man. We therefore had no place to lay our heads. And then being sons of god.. We dont die.
Were celestial beings. But being as such. Jesus also showed us Its dangerous to teach another faith.. Theyll kill you. So that also being said.. Let the holy man still be holy and let the righteous man be righteous.. And … Therefore. Out there.. But its sure is good to see Thomas writtings.. And though i see alot of negativity aswell Im glad you made it to here.. And these monkey suits.. Theres going to be a day.. Back to the garden in paridice.. It just takes time.. And if you think about it.. So really How smart do you think father is..
So dont worry… And for now i reach with my hands. Just as he serves us.. So I send my love.. Sometime i cry.
To answer ART.. Christians have.. Or Abba At least i hope they understand that And where two become one. Which is the reality.. One spirit one person. Father being.. I am there. In that of profetic.. And that he has a fire to light.. If then i stood before the mighty dragon.. I would of had no chance at all With out him.. And he writes.. What if it were already kindled.. Sometimes we have no idea of the heavenly rules.. But who sent him.. If you have Christ living inside of you, you have been resurrected and can easily understand these sayings.
Do you think it easy to find the Kingdom? Only if you fast from the world and seek it with your whole being will you find it. If you have Christ dwelling inside you, the Lord will give you discernment. The gnostic interests make this gospel less credible… believers should be very careful. There were other pseudo gospels around as The Way was spreading. Paul warns the believers to be wary of false gospels and so should we. These sayings are illogically put together.
Reading them is dissonance at its worst. I appreciate the fact that these are recovered texts, but they are antithetical to the canonical Gospels… It seems to me they are from a drunkard who wished in a moment of sobriety he were a disciple of Jesus the Christ… May be he had the opportunity, like Nicodemus, but rejected it for the cares of the world… May God grant solace to this lost soul!
Hi there. My understanding is that the Gospel of Thomas has a large chunk of the sayings, roughly half of it, that are present in the four canonical gospels of the new testament. If so, it would have been helpful if these texts above were highlighted so that readers could compare the writings to the canonized writings of the Bible.
There are two manuscripts of this gospel and they are not the same. This one from the Nag Hammadi manuscript is not as old as the Coptic version. The Copic was has not all survived. It also seems to have some gnostic interests. I would not be to quick to say that those are the true words if Jesus. The Holy Bible has been reduced to skim milk by too many splitting hairs of every word of God and Jesus. To fit so called modern societies. Be aware of how you can stray. What applies in 30 AD applies just as well for all times. The awareness of the kingdom here and now and that a part of you deep within is that.
I would like to understand more about the light and the kingdom. I so much need to understand more. Cause I would like to put it in my pathway. Verse 55, without the context of verse , can be easily misinterpreted to hate your father and mother to become a disciple of jesus!!! Is this not a contradiction on the highest level? Verse can be easily misinterpreted to promote women having transgender operations to become a man. I really enjoyed the reading and most of it I will try to adhere to. The lost words are still lost too many and the Bible was written in such a fashion as not to take away or add to.
I just wish I could read it in the language it was written in. Thanks for the publishing of this old text as it will no doubt add to my walk with God. Jesus said that after he resurrected he would not need to speak in parables to his disciples anymore. Why is this gospel of Thomas still being communicated in parables?
To understand the words and apply them to your path, you are surely heading home. Love one another as He loves us. Give from your heart and not your head. No darkness will enter in the gate. If you will not sup here, why do you think you will there. Walk in the light, your path is clear. If you pick one piece to believe you must believe it all if you think it has anything to so with biblical times, whenever that was.
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As for me it is al a big fairy tale but one that has made some people lots of money. What if we were to simply stop analysing the actual wording of this gospel and the other gospels, and stop trying to critique all the various translations from the confines of our human brain, and try harder and harder to find repose, and quietly look within ourselves. Maybe then the conditions will be right to allow us to better understand what we need to know…….. Does it really matter which group of people claim they have the correct translation?
Should we waste time arguing about this? Perhaps Jesus says is simply guiding us to make time to be still enough to look within and hear from God directly….. I am uncertain of the validity of the translation of the Gospel of Thomas.
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While some of it sheds light upon who we are and of whom we belong, it is lacking the fruits of the Spirit. There is no love within the logic driven words. It is translated in such a way as to contradict too many things. I understand most of it, but it seems written with a bitter spirit. I will glean what i can from it and take what lines up with Scripture. Use discernment and the Full Armor when reading and gleaning. The Nicean Councisl dicated the doctrine of the early church.
Knowing what we know about people in position of power today, do manipulation and control seem like pervasive themes? These ar my beliefs the Gospel of John For God so love the world that He gave His only begaton Son that who so ever believed in Him should not parish but have ever lasting life. Ha, ha, ha, what a bunch of garbage this is. A five year old should be able to see how pathetically phony this is.
What I have learned is people want to put their bias marks on things or in must cases mis-lead others.
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Always be honest, it goes along way in righteousness. No disrespect; this is my opinion only!. In reading all these texts, they are a compilation of what already exists within context in the Bible. Any missing neuences in translation can be accessed in a lexicon that I have.
The problem with most Christian persuasions, the followers do not wish to make a complete and utter surrender to the Holy Spirit which is the seal of our salvation. Through the Holy Spirit we are told that we can renew our mind. With this renewed mind Christ said that the kingdom ofGod lives within us. The book of Thomas makes no new revelations but for a deep Biblical scholar all these alternate meanings are considered and weighed up against alternate understanding.
I agree most Christians do not really understand the reality of the Kingdom of God within them. However, this does not presuppose that this power originates within us but this power is from God Himself through surrender to the Holy Spirit. It would be nice if there were references included telling where these words of Jesus are located in the Bible. All these words and saying are found in the Bible as well, but they are shattered or implemented in several examples and stories.
Open your eyes and read the bible closely and you will find them. Thanks for this contribution to revealing the truth. The first comment is ridiculous and is written by one of those fanaticis who is blind to the truth, those who maintain that every letter in the KJV is absolut true sorry to say, they live in darkness. Jesus said also things as that we should see with our inner eye and similarly, that we shall listen with our inner ear. And likewise that, when we make the internal the same as the external, we will enter the kingdom.
He was not talking about a relative future, but about here and now, meaning that the kingdom is available to us when we choose the only one right master, which is the higher Self, in contradiction to the constructed mind, a confined consciousness. Jung said: as long as we live in a lower form of consciousness, we will continue to project our mind on the world, which means that we will live in a fragmented world, the opposite to a united world.
Jesus was sometimes frustrated about the fact that people come into this world and seems to leave it without any progression. I met some people during my life who, in spite of their age about 90 years old said that they never had thought about God; they were totally absorbed by the external world and all the events going on. This seems also to be the reason to why the gospel of Thomas was found in Nag Hammadi, after been hidden in the sand for about years.
Would we accept this in our so called free society of today, if we of some reason discovered what they had done? So, why should we trust King James decision to make the choices of what was relevant or not. We still have so much to learn from what is still not revealed and hidden to us because Jesus had to speak in parables. For the first time in history we could enjoy the truth in the totality of the scriptures and eventually become enlightened, if we make the choice to serve the only one, and true master, which is not the ego or psychological identification with our mind our past and future; in opposition to the now.
I already understand a lot of what the gospel of Thomas is saying, but I please, continue to deliver explanations to how to understand the hidden meanings! What is wrong with you you are not teaching GODs word with your translation you are in sin you are changing the word of the Lord.
KJV is the last true translation of the word.. This is not the Lord word it is yours and your wrong. Not understanding the contradictions. The Gospels make absolutely no sense at all. I have found the Kingdom, the real Kingdom. It is already here and available. I can say percent that these teaching come from Jesus Himself because I have figured out the answer to 5 of them, and was able to experience the Kingdom.
Interesting readings, we should take into consideration that Jesus was in is childhood years during these conversations…. There is no sin. We must hate our father and mothers belief systems of slavery and embrace that we r gods. We r the kingdom of heaven. Have ears to hear or remain the same. The well is deeper than we believe. I do not believe Thomas wrote this.
I believe was someone that was a Christian because some of the lines sound just like little snippets from the canonized Bible.
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Jesus Christ does live inside of us and around us because of his Holy Spirit that dwells within the believer. A nonbeliever does not have this. I do think that we need to investigate and read other literature that is connecting to Christianity in general. It is very reckless to just read some writing and believe right away it comes from a spiritual source that comes from God, Jesus Christ, or the Holy Spirit. I believe only the book of Enoch is the closest known Gnostic writings that I believe could be canonized. Finally, if you read the canonized Bible it tells you what Christ was all about every entire point of the canonized Bible was for people to trust that Jesus Christ is there personal Lord and Savior and that if they is ways, they will be filled with the Holy Spirit that will guide you through a world of sin and distraction.
The kingdom of God is not on earth. Never was and never will be until Jesus comes back on the day of judgment. So is there a degree of mystical or mysterious teachings within the canonized Bible. My answer would be, yes, there are many mysteries within the belief in Jesus Christ and again he does live inside of you and you will do the work of the kingdom of God by if you look around you can tell this is not what God intended us to live in. But I do believe God is inside us and all around us when we accept him as our personal Lord and Savior. Do not judge or speak harsh words.
Lisa and Dina, woe is the person that judges their brothers and sisters for things they do not understand!!! Therefore, it is Not part of the True and living bible. And just so you know Dena, you are in for a Huge surprise when you pass from this world into the next. It is absolutely literal. After you die you will see how literal it is, but then it will be too late. That when we are able to drop out natural selves. Those who focus on the afterlife should instead focus on their test here, or they will find the jar empty, and that they missed the whole point. An enlightened person understands what the sayings of Jesus in the Gospel of Thomas mean.
An enlightened person is a spiritually alive or awakened person and as such, has direct, personal experience of this wisdom, just as Jesus did. The reason this gospel was rejected was because those who decided which gospels were to be included in the bible did not understand these statements which Jesus reserved for his inner circle. In other words, you are unable to accept what if not familiar.
It is significant that Thomas simply quoted Jesus, leaving the story-telling for the other gospel writers. The following link will take you to a place beyond understanding. Whether Thomas is more or less authentic than the Bible we surely cannot know, since no videos remain from the first century. Who did what, with what and to whom, we will surely never know and to me it matters not at all. Perhaps if it seems to matter one is looking in the wrong place. Did Shakespeare write Shakespeare?
Does it matter? Either way it is truth. I find Thomas the most charming and insightful Gospel. With wry wit and savage irony, it suggests a wicked sense of humour and intelligence Jesus must have had, in contrast to the sometimes insipid and credulous Jesus of the canon. For this reason, intuitively, I suspect the canon is actually much more corrupted since it had an an agenda, i. Conversely, Thomas, existed in a time capsule, and is timeless unvarnished, unpretentious truth if read rich metaphorically. It is to the listener that music either sounds moving or not, no music critic can make you like it.
Thomas is a book of insightful jokes which ruthlessly reveal truth. They work! Doubting Thomas is all im hearing. If your thinking clearly and truly putting Christ first in your life, you would find these passages helpful to the advancement of your soal into the light. Thomas was the last of Gods followers to admit what He had witnessed was actually the truth the light and the way.
So please cut the man some slack.
For me knowing the church rejected these sayings gives them even more power of truth. Remember this: split a piece of wood and Christ is there and lift a stone and he is there as well. This hole premis undermines the physical church and that means no money for them. If you take away their money their bank fails and all their buildings and churches fail.
Unless they served wild honey and locusts for dinner and gunnie sacks for clothing. John the Baptist lived and served Christ in the wild which in my mind Is the true church of the living God. Peter John. Jewish priests, did everything including having the romans crucify jesus to prove he was mortal and get him out of there hair. No living person can possibly know the truth just from listening to another, yet all religions proclaim to know truth from their written word, written by another.
After having attended several seminars and heard scholars of different denominations speak, I saw the Gospel of Thomas is accepted as authoritative by textural scholars of all Judeo-Christian persuasions. It informs the text. I am 82, and yes I was taught what Catholicism meant as a child Catholic grammar and high school. As an adult, I continually read, took adult classes still do , and I am not alone in this. What is energy- well that is God of course— and somehow we all, not just the current living, but all who has done so through out all time fits in that little energy ball- to which — it is only little to some human eyes but it is the infinite to some others eyes or whatever they call them….
Thank you…. The rest I will find wherever u hide-1 by 1 and make sure u see the presapus of feeling maybe he was lost , maybe he was lying , maybe he gave up and see what u almost destroyed with no direction at all….. Who did I just clock out and clock back in? Brothers and sisters,u will be in tears if u understand the real meaning. What the lord said are nothing but truth. Its similar to sufi islam.
Gospel of tomas carries beautiful messages from the lord that everyone should read and try to understand. Pls do not condem any beliefs. Its difficult to understand every word as they meant not what u know but what in you. I truly believe that the chosen Apostles ie: Thomas and Phillip would not endeavour to write any form of doctrine without the divine intervention of Jesus Christ. The versified passages has no real substance which is contradictory to the original text and divine qualities of the Lord our Saviour.
If you preach another gospel of Jesus Christ let him be accursed Gal Gospel of our supernatural Father of our souls is known to the people of holy spirit or common sense. Rajinder Nijjhar, M. Much more in my Book. Over Youtube Videos; channel nijjhar1 that explain all the Gnostic Gospel. I accept challenges. If you seek not the whole truth you will find nothing! If you seek the whole truth you will find the kindom of God! If you rebuke or deny my words, you deny my father!
And ye will kiss your asses goodbye. These are the living words of Christ. Remember the Cannon was edited at the council of Nycia by men! Just because these are recent dicoveries does not make them any less valid! To the preacher who replies to my email. Nobody knows who. I am seeking 1preacher on the Gulfcoast of Mississippi. WIn 2 become one. When you view your clouds you put the blue the white and the black together. Look for the person on a angle. In time you will find a person in everything you see.
Jesus told you to seek and you will find. Jesus told u this. The question is can man handle it. Know what is in front of you and what is hidden from you. Their are very few people who can see in our world. Have you all ever asked some one for the answers. You just have to love all these people who get caught up with Gnostic ideas. The first commentator in this list however, a Dr. Still, it does show what sort of foolishness modern, educated people are capable of believing. Otherwise folks, go study your history.
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